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Phoenix
03-20-2009, 04:17 AM
Saw the 10 conspiracy theories on msn, and i remeber looking into the assasination of JFK a while back, thought it would be interessting to post something semi serious.

.. Most of you should know the story, but incase you don't:


JFK gets shot in dallas in his open top limosine.
1 bullet misses
1 bullet wound to the throat.
1 bullet in the head.
Lone gun man held responsible.


But...


Throat indicated it was an exit wound, implying that the bullet game from behind. (autopsy photos show this)
Video footages shows him getting head shotted from the front with a huge fuck off exit wound in the back of his head.
Some audio footage shows there were infact 4 bullets, not 3.


How could there have been one gunman if he has front and back exit wounds?
It's really confusing and there are so many stories :/ Was hard to actually distinguish between fact n fiction..

Autopsy Photos (yes thats wat i do at 3am) show no entry wound in the front of his skull.. but show the back of his head blown off... only the bullet wound in the throat (exit). :/

Some crazy conspiracy stuff going on there..

However I found this video which is interessting, a complete reconstruction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSBXW1-VGmM&feature=related

Further proving that there was 2 due to the 3rd bullet to the head from the front... where they have placed the shooter at the back.

[Yes I am aware that I should have better things to do with my time.. just really interessted in this shit.. wanted to be a pathologist for christs sake lol]

+ If you watch the footage in real time.. you notice as soon as the first bullet misses the driver of the car begins to slow down.. when obviously he should be speeding up. .. :/

Mazman
03-20-2009, 04:53 AM
Yep the JFK thing official story is complete BS, and one conspiracy theory thats 100% true. (You ever see the film "JFK" btw?)

Legend's our resident conspiracy nut - he'll cream when he sees this thread.

Reckonage
03-20-2009, 09:52 AM
George Bush organised 9/11. Not really a conspiracy theory but more a fact.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

Phoenix
03-20-2009, 03:09 PM
Yep the JFK thing official story is complete BS, and one conspiracy theory thats 100% true. (You ever see the film "JFK" btw?)

Legend's our resident conspiracy nut - he'll cream when he sees this thread.

I've not seen the film, but saw parts of it on youtube.

There was actully so many stories i was getting really confused.. but it's blatently obvious what that the "official" story is not true.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrpbGl7_1o
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-D48YbXn3U&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxZ4xQnChOo&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBatcKeIZa4&NR=1
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bz-ESxgEqM&feature=related
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjaiFO19kTI&feature=related
Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqBrEk2W6rs&NR=1
Part 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXvI735t1_U&feature=related
Part 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMj3lQPGmbU&NR=1
Part 10: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNuafiPUklg&feature=related
Part 11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCJbZv-6s&feature=related

... takes a while to get through them, but this is what was supose to have happened, denighing any conspiracys theorys.

RAGEMAN
03-20-2009, 04:30 PM
George Bush organised 9/11. Not really a conspiracy theory but more a fact.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

comon thats 2 hours long lol

Mazman
03-20-2009, 04:42 PM
Zeitgeist ftw. It's why Christianity, 9/11 and the Federal Bank are all complete BS. Well worth a watch.

XUnit
03-20-2009, 04:44 PM
Zeitgeist ftw. It's why Christianity, 9/11 and the Federal Bank are all complete BS. Well worth a watch.
Yea, watched all that as well. /The Zeitgeist movie.

Quite a good watch.

Makaveli
03-20-2009, 04:51 PM
Yea it is a good film tbh.

Leave's you thinking tho.

SHARKGUN
03-20-2009, 05:22 PM
Check out "chem trails"... I laughed my ass off when I watched youtube vids about it xD

Reckonage
03-20-2009, 05:23 PM
Well we all knew religion is built on complete bullshit but it's still fun to shove that part infront of a 'believer' (Read: deluded death fearing moron). I'm not so sure about the other two but they are scary as hell and really convincing.

Fate
03-20-2009, 08:05 PM
I know quite a bit about most of the famous conspiracy theorys as I find them really interesting, even if they are a load of BS.

As for the JFK one, if you're basing your opinion of it even slightly off of the film JFK, you're being an idiot. That film is so factually inaccurate, Oliver Stone is such a biased director. I'm still undecided on what happened but I don't think there was a second shooter, I watched this awesome documentary that put all the facts in place, and corrected the things that the film said, and then it left it up to you what to decide as it wasn't cut and dry what they thought had happened.

Zeitgeist is an interesting watch and probably the only decent 9/11 conspiracy information I've seen, some of the stuff about that conspiracy is completely retarded like people actually believing there is something important about how 1+1=11...9/11! (and no im not basing this off of south park, that episode is a parody of these sort of sites). Side note:Type in Q33 NY in capitals into word, and change it to wingdings. Thats the flight number of the 1st plane to crash into the WTC.

Other interesting conspiracys:
Moon landing
Titanic
Illuminati

Reckonage
03-20-2009, 08:07 PM
comon thats 2 hours long lol

It's worth it.

AJR-Legend
03-20-2009, 08:09 PM
I love conspiracy :P Kennedy had to be one.

EliteGamer
03-20-2009, 08:40 PM
There's no such thing as a badger. They're a myth invented to deceive the masses.

Phoenix
03-20-2009, 08:42 PM
Havn't seen the film Mike..

But it jsut amazes me when he gets that final shot in the head... how they say that came from behind is beyond me.

Mazman
03-20-2009, 08:47 PM
Side note:Type in Q33 NY in capitals into word, and change it to wingdings. Thats the flight number of the 1st plane to crash into the WTC.

Actually, that's complete codswallop. The flight number was AA something as it was an American Airways flight.

Fate
03-20-2009, 08:54 PM
Thats probably true, but it still looks pretty cool.

Millo
03-21-2009, 01:45 AM
Religion is the opiate of the masses.

Phoenix
03-21-2009, 02:22 AM
Race/Religion is the cause of all wars :/ Fuking idiots.

Flux
03-21-2009, 02:30 AM
no.

SOMALIANS ARE.

i will say no more.

Reckonage
03-21-2009, 12:50 PM
Religion is the opiate of the masses.

OMG a fellow Marx deciple.

Ash
03-21-2009, 03:56 PM
Striker did it

IceKid
03-21-2009, 03:58 PM
George Bush organised 9/11. Not really a conspiracy theory but more a fact.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197



if you believe in this conspiracy then the blame isent with bush

Cowley
03-21-2009, 06:10 PM
i dont beleive the 9/11 conspiracy, Americans are so patriotic they wouldn't destroy one of their most prized landmarks all those thousands of people.

Titanic conspiracy theory makes far to much sence, but surely its not real? lol

Bermuda Triangle conspiracys are intresting!

flixy
03-21-2009, 06:54 PM
bermuda triangle really is fucking weirdddd

shit like that which remains unexplained is so interesting :|

Reckonage
03-21-2009, 09:16 PM
if you believe in this conspiracy then the blame isent with bush

Yeh I know I oversimplified and tbh I don't even believe it anyway.

AJR-Legend
03-21-2009, 09:37 PM
Titanic conspiracy theory makes far to much sence, but surely its not real? lol


The insurance fraud? It makes alot sense....someone knows ....somewhere :scared:

Fate
03-21-2009, 09:56 PM
I really like the Titanic one, the part about how they had an almost entire crew change before its launch is a bit fishy

Phoenix
03-21-2009, 09:59 PM
Someone summerise the titanic one.

Fate
03-21-2009, 10:08 PM
The Titanic never sunk






























It was it's sister ship (almost identical) The Olympic, that sunk but disguised as the Titanic. The reason for the switch was because The Olympic sustained damage when a small ship crashed into it. In order for them to claim their money back on the insurance of the ship, they switched them (They were built at the same time and it could have been possible) so the damaged ship sunk but they would have still got insurance money due to everyone else thinking the ship was previously undamaged.
As for people that would die (as they are sending a ship to its doom), another ship was sent out into the Atlantic with just 6 crew members and lots of blankets and towels, this ship was near where the Titanic (possibly The Olympic!!) sunk, and if you believe the theory, was meant to accommodate the passengers.

Thats a summary so don't question me on the ''why did they...'' or whatever as I either don't know or didn't go into detail.

Cpt_Oats
03-21-2009, 10:10 PM
Alot of people are a bit dubious about the moon landing. When they are filmed running about on the "Moon" as their boots kick up dust, this dust falls immediatly back down to the surface.

Given the how light dust is and the moons lower gravity, this dust would have lingered in the air alot longer than it did in the film apparently.

Mazman
03-21-2009, 10:12 PM
As for people that would die (as they are sending a ship to its doom), another ship was sent out into the Atlantic with just 6 crew members and lots of blankets and towels, this ship was near where the Titanic (possibly The Olympic!!) sunk, and if you believe the theory, was meant to accommodate the passengers.
Well surely that one falls to pieces right around the time the survivors arrive back home.

Fate
03-21-2009, 10:13 PM
The best thing about the Moon Landing conspiracy is the doctored photos. I've not seen a good counter-arguement to those yet.

AJR-Legend
03-21-2009, 10:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7Bt9yNL5o&feature=related
Titanic conspiracy ^ Its split into a few parts....good watch though!

Fate
03-21-2009, 10:17 PM
Well surely that one falls to pieces right around the time the survivors arrive back home.

Why? Everyone on board thought the ship was The Titanic.

Mazman
03-21-2009, 10:20 PM
Why? Everyone on board thought the ship was The Titanic.
But then they got transferred into another suspiciously similar looking boat when the "Titanic" sunk.

Phoenix
03-21-2009, 10:21 PM
Moon conspiracy is Lol's .... so many things wrong with them pictures. lol

Mazman
03-21-2009, 10:25 PM
The moon landing one is such a cliche though. I personally reckon there's nothing wrong with it.

When they went up they left some kind of satellite dish up there which lab boffins are still using to this day to collect data from n shit. If they didn't really go up there in the first place then how did it get there?
Besides, it's all very well saying "That flag wouldn't move like that" or "that dust isn't behaving like it would on the moon" but until you go up there you have no idea.

Fate
03-21-2009, 10:33 PM
But then they got transferred into another suspiciously similar looking boat when the "Titanic" sunk.

No, the boat that picked them up was an entirely different boat. It was a freighter I think.

Mazman
03-21-2009, 10:36 PM
Ah right got ya.

Phoenix
03-21-2009, 10:48 PM
So..

Titanic switched with the olympic cse they cudnt' get an insurance claim..

so how could the titanic then become the olympic without anyone noticing.. as the olympic was just a pile of scrap metal :/

AJR-Legend
03-21-2009, 10:50 PM
Watch the vid...

Weasel
03-21-2009, 10:53 PM
regarding 9/11 conspiracies....

i dont beleive america specifically MADE 9/11 happen...more just let it happen and not try to stop them. Its all about creating a fear climate, you bring in special powers to help find 'terrorists' but become more invasive each time.

im purposely not posting alot on this as i could go on all day about things like this, but i have history coursework to do. conveniently a sort of conspiracy (why hiroshima really happend)

Fate
03-21-2009, 10:58 PM
So..

Titanic switched with the olympic cse they cudnt' get an insurance claim..

so how could the titanic then become the olympic without anyone noticing.. as the olympic was just a pile of scrap metal :/

It wasnt scrap metal, it was a working ship but damaged. They 'repaired' it from the damages but obviously it wasnt as good as they wanted it to be.

Mazman
03-21-2009, 11:00 PM
Alright having just watched most of the Titanic documentary it does present a pretty convincing case. BUT there's one thing that doesn't add up;

The plan of the corporation was to get the insurance dosh for the sinking ship and maintain the running of the other one. These ships were presented to the public as unsinkable, yet the "Titanic" sunk. How could this company realistically hope to maintain a public service on the other ship after the news of such a massive disaster became known?

Phoenix
03-21-2009, 11:03 PM
They wanted an "accident" Maz.. the ship would have been fine if 2 of the 16 compartments flooded.. but the iceberg tore through 5 completely raping them..

They thought it was unsinkable, hence why the ship didn't have enough life boats.. but they fucked up..

Phoenix
03-21-2009, 11:24 PM
Double Post: After watching the you tube vids i'm really unsure..

Would have been easy enough to switch them.. swap what little lifeboats and vests they had..

But then there seems to be alot of structural evidence fromthe wreck that supports the fact that it's the titanic.. it's a shame the "Olympic" was scrapped, as it could have been looked into further..

Never the less.. an interessting theory.

RAGEMAN
03-22-2009, 12:19 AM
ok so just watch the titanic youtube vid. They is A LOT of proof that they werent switched. But then the stucture could change will under waen changed in the shipping yard and could of been damage. Really this cant be proven. Not hard to change life jackets and cabients AND it also says they used I 'small' repair crew. So this would explain a swap also. The propeller could also have fitted as the ship were basically the same ships.

IceKid
03-22-2009, 03:38 PM
''London police have been given the power to "disperse" anyone under 16, gathered in groups of two or more, from almost all of central London, after 9PM. The police don't have to see the kids doing anything wrong, they only have to believe "the presence or behaviour of a group of two or more persons in any public place in the relevant locality has resulted, or is likely to result, in any members of the public being intimidated, harassed, alarmed or distressed."




http://craphound.com/images/3318880165_c386706097_b.jpg


If you’re observant, in central London, you may have seen this notice casually cable-tied to a lamppost. From afar, it looks like a council planning application, or parking bay suspension. It’s actually notifying you that you’re now subject to an anti-social behaviour order, and the Police (and the not-really-Police Community Support Officers) have special powers to remove you from this area if they feel like it. These dispersal areas cover large swathes of London, and other cities in England. There are now over 1000 such areas.

It’s ambiguously worded, but it institutes law that in other words may not seem so palatable. There’s a curfew for unsupervised under-16s, from 9pm to 6am. Any group of 2 or more people can be broken up and/or that the member of the group have to leave the designated area (if they do not live there). Crucially, police do not have to see actual anti-social behaviour, but a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that the presence or behaviour of a group of two or more persons in any public place in the relevant locality has resulted, or is likely to result, in any members of the public being intimidated, harassed, alarmed or distressed...



holdtight dem man protesting bout some next faith but dem man aint on this



youtdem standup

IceKid
03-22-2009, 03:46 PM
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Source
03-22-2009, 04:38 PM
The moon landing one is such a cliche though. I personally reckon there's nothing wrong with it.

When they went up they left some kind of satellite dish up there which lab boffins are still using to this day to collect data from n shit. If they didn't really go up there in the first place then how did it get there?
Besides, it's all very well saying "That flag wouldn't move like that" or "that dust isn't behaving like it would on the moon" but until you go up there you have no idea.

They mean that the dust is moving as if there is wind on the moon.

Phoenix
03-22-2009, 04:43 PM
Diesel says they were switched bcse he worked in a Yaught Warehouse once..... 0_0 ?

Cowley
03-22-2009, 11:47 PM
the fuck? 0_o lol

WordPlay
03-22-2009, 11:49 PM
Moon landing makes me laff, who was there first to film the landing?

Recoil
03-23-2009, 12:37 AM
regarding 9/11 conspiracies....

i dont beleive america specifically MADE 9/11 happen...more just let it happen and not try to stop them. Its all about creating a fear climate, you bring in special powers to help find 'terrorists' but become more invasive each time.

im purposely not posting alot on this as i could go on all day about things like this, but i have history coursework to do. conveniently a sort of conspiracy (why hiroshima really happend)

agreed. i've watched a lot of 9.11 videos and it was BAD planning and organizing, it just happened. But as USA were so shit about it, they mad themselves looked like they did it!

brinky
03-23-2009, 01:18 AM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pictures/jan06/080106eldiablo.jpg


http://www.texemarrs.com/images/bill_clinton_el_diablo.jpg


http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/February2009/130209vogue.jpg


TTKK

Mazman
03-23-2009, 01:45 AM
Presidents ROCK

Phoenix
03-23-2009, 01:55 AM
Lmao... I think it's some sort of code myself Maz!!

brinky
03-23-2009, 02:11 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qUFDMUpk9jE/RvOOaZgwu4I/AAAAAAAAFzA/eVqWNbgUN28/s1600/horns_1.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qUFDMUpk9jE/SXV_z2j-XbI/AAAAAAAAO8w/2MVkMtPijZg/s1600/hillarytan55.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qUFDMUpk9jE/SXV-Cv2Ds2I/AAAAAAAAO7g/H4gkYTaF-Dk/s1600/satan_sign-sarah_palin.jpg


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qUFDMUpk9jE/SXV94TFsJ8I/AAAAAAAAO7Q/WN2s3y0IjzM/s1600/obama_hand.jpg


Why are all these people who happend to be in great power all doing this very strange and unnatural hand sign.........


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qUFDMUpk9jE/RvPz5JgwvDI/AAAAAAAAF0Y/6vXRbmLNlBk/s1600/sat-ritual.jpg

the calling called of the devil....

RAGEMAN
03-23-2009, 02:27 AM
peoples thoughts on the year 2012?

AJR-Legend
03-23-2009, 11:33 AM
Indiana Jones is real!

Recoil
03-23-2009, 11:37 AM
peoples thoughts on the year 2012?

just no, never

Ash
03-23-2009, 12:43 PM
Alright having just watched most of the Titanic documentary it does present a pretty convincing case. BUT there's one thing that doesn't add up;

The plan of the corporation was to get the insurance dosh for the sinking ship and maintain the running of the other one. These ships were presented to the public as unsinkable, yet the "Titanic" sunk. How could this company realistically hope to maintain a public service on the other ship after the news of such a massive disaster became known?


Titanic was never put forward as "unsinkable" - in the movie it was said yeah.. but before the titanic went to see... in papers etc... it was always said as "practically unsinkable"

AJR-Legend
03-23-2009, 01:11 PM
Well nothing is unsinkable lol...... its just ironic how it was thought to be and then sinks on its first outing lol.

WordPlay
03-23-2009, 01:57 PM
peoples thoughts on the year 2012?

Olympics in London
Poland/Ukraine (i think) 2012 European Championships.

Good times.

Fate
03-23-2009, 06:08 PM
The Mayan calender ends so the world will. Ironic that they're long gone first. That's not really a conspiracy theory btw. And by not really, I mean not at all.

underclassedhero
03-23-2009, 06:18 PM
kennedy was a cover up. check out how most of his family died. I feel he may have died due to the speech he gave about not letting banks control the country mixed in with the bothed job in the 'bay of pigs' incident.
religion, father christmas, 911, the freemason, the new world order, the black pope, jfk, jimmy hoffas body location and death, pricess diana, shergar(racing horse), illuminate, five prophecies of end of days etc etc
I like conspiracies the best of them all is the new world order.....the signs are there but no one will listen.

underclassedhero
03-23-2009, 06:20 PM
Well nothing is unsinkable lol...... its just ironic how it was thought to be and then sinks on its first outing lol.


whenever a shpi is built a sister ship is also built. A bristish ship hit the side of it so they swapped the names of the ship, theres a documentary on you tube made by 4 i think check it out

Mazman
03-23-2009, 06:30 PM
^ You're an idiot. Check back a page.

underclassedhero
03-23-2009, 06:39 PM
I couldnt be arsed tbh i just read the last page........Ive read and watched loads of shit on this years and years ago. have a look into the new world order its really good

WordPlay
03-23-2009, 07:19 PM
I couldnt be arsed tbh i just read the last page........Ive read and watched loads of shit on this years and years ago. have a look into the new world order its really good

whats the nwo order?

are Hulk Hogan and his companions coming back for another invasion.

Fate
03-23-2009, 07:29 PM
I couldnt be arsed tbh i just read the last page........Ive read and watched loads of shit on this years and years ago. have a look into the new world order its really good

Just because you couldn't be arsed doesn't make you not an idiot.

The NWO is the Illuminati conspiracy that there is one government controlling all

flixy
03-23-2009, 07:32 PM
lol illuminati

/cripplingmentalretardation

AJR-Legend
03-23-2009, 07:34 PM
XA1g3wjHEmw

oDYprjARMnw

Fate
03-23-2009, 07:36 PM
Is that the Sky One documentary on it? Where they were talking about the building looking like an owl as a clue lol

underclassedhero
03-23-2009, 07:52 PM
Just because you couldn't be arsed doesn't make you not an idiot.

The NWO is the Illuminati conspiracy that there is one government controlling all


wrong all wrong nd i cba with the argument.

I noticed something wrong with that vid the star of david is sometimes miss interrpreted as the petagram in this video it mentions the star of david this is not true its the pentagram

i lik the vids tho. oe conspiracy theory on jfks assasination is linked the high powered banks due to a speech he gave. did you know the guy who owned the titanic was also a part of the free masons and was paid the full insurance of the titanic sinking.

he was also a guy who owned large banks in america and had close ties to the rockerfella family. there are alot of presidents which have openly stated they are a part of the free mason.

brinky
03-23-2009, 07:54 PM
on the second vid you do know the JFK's speech has been edited..


it is miss leading he was talking about communist Russia


Also if you dont believe in religion how can you believe in the nwo


the ties between the two is to much

Fate
03-23-2009, 07:59 PM
wrong all wrong nd i cba with the argument.

I noticed something wrong with that vid the star of david is sometimes miss interrpreted as the petagram in this video it mentions the star of david this is not true its the pentagram

i lik the vids tho. oe conspiracy theory on jfks assasination is linked the high powered banks due to a speech he gave. did you know the guy who owned the titanic was also a part of the free masons and was paid the full insurance of the titanic sinking.

he was also a guy who owned large banks in america and had close ties to the rockerfella family. there are alot of presidents which have openly stated they are a part of the free mason.



Whats 'wrong all wrong'? You being an idiot (not reading a thread and replying makes you one) or the Illuminati part? (which is a NWO conspiracy theory) I'm not saying its true, but it is definitely a theory, thus making me not wrong.

underclassedhero
03-23-2009, 08:04 PM
oh right so its a guess then?

AJR-Legend
03-23-2009, 08:06 PM
I liked the bit in the 2nd vid at 7.53 plus......see if that happens lol

underclassedhero
03-23-2009, 08:10 PM
on the second vid you do know the JFK's speech has been edited..


it is miss leading he was talking about communist Russia


Also if you dont believe in religion how can you believe in the nwo


the ties between the two is to much



that is true to the point of the revelations of the apocalypse etc etc

The russian acctually believe that putin is the anti christ( the anti christ is a good sign because it will then lead to the second comming of man) and a saviour of the world.

the mark of the beast will be on everyone(barcodes all have 666 on them)

you guys can find the rest obtw fate im n ot being funny but maybe you should read some more before you start calling people stupid n fall back on well its just a theory

Fate
03-23-2009, 08:15 PM
oh right so its a guess then?

............What?

underclassedhero
03-23-2009, 08:22 PM
I didnt just watch zeitgeist and make a fukin assumption go and read nd comeback when you find summert new i gaurentee you wll be busy for months. start with babylonia and work your way forward to present day maybe read up on on american history and sir issac newton

Centarius
03-23-2009, 08:25 PM
lol this conversation sounds slightly like the MGS storyline...minus the clones.

underclassedhero
03-23-2009, 08:28 PM
lol never play it

Fate
03-23-2009, 09:03 PM
I didnt just watch zeitgeist and make a fukin assumption go and read nd comeback when you find summert new i gaurentee you wll be busy for months. start with babylonia and work your way forward to present day maybe read up on on american history and sir issac newton

I just dont get what you're on about, you said my post was all wrong without saying why. And it's a bit rich you telling me to go and read something, seeing as you not reading this thread is what has started this whole thing.

For the record, Im a physics student, I know all about Newton, been to the house he was born in too.